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My father gave me formal education in raagdari. He died in Lahore in 1964 when I was 13. I was in the tenth year of school, and my father’s brother took me into the qawwali ensemble and started giving me formal education in qawwali.

I was just studying with my father, a very difficult task for me since he was a great, great Qawwali singer.

You’ve got to sing from the depths of the heart. Without heart, you cannot be a Qawwal.

Yes, you’ve got to sing from the depths of the heart.